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African Americans Can Find Themselves In The Bible

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Well, before we even get into this topic of ethnicity and African presence in the bible, we have to deal with certain regions in the bible.  Once we do that, we then have to look at the climates of those regions.  After looking at those two things we must then look at the people in the bible.  Lastly we will look at Jesus himself.  Why does this matter?  It matters because there is still a detachment from Christianity that some African Americans feel because most of the art and movies about biblical characters look more Caucasian than African. This is not a new topic for me.  Starting as a teenager and then moving into my young adult days I became radical thinker.  If you’ve read my blogs you may have noticed that not much has changed.  As a Christian I was very intrigued by other religious beliefs.  In the late ’80s and early ’90s I learned a lot about my own beliefs by having very spirited yet respectful discussions with young men who were a part of the Nation of Islam. The Nation of Islam is thought by some to be a hate group and by others to be an Islamic sect that strongly emphasizes African American self-esteem.   Either way the guys I talked to studied the Bible a lot and challenged me to become a better Bible student. One thing that the guys from the Nation of Islam challenged me on is the topic of Christianity being a “White Man’s” religion.  This was something that stuck with me. They would show me pictures of a blonde haired, blue eyed Jesus.  They pointed out how Cecil B. Demille avoided having any of the biblical characters in his movies showing any hint of African lineage. If that were not enough, they then pounded me with Elisabeth Taylor playing Cleopatra. This forced me to study. I was shocked to find what I found.  I came to learn that they were right about some of the distortions of historical fact. They were correct in pointing out that a lot of the biblical imagery that is portrayed in art and movies was and still is at times very Eurocentric. In the first chapter of Genesis God created everything in 6 days and then God rested on Saturday.  Things get very sticky for some when we get into the 2 nd chapter.  Most Sunday school lessons and Biblical commentaries omit any discussion that involves verses 10 through 14 of the 2 nd chapter.  In those verses the writer of Genesis tries to give the readers the location of Eden and it’s surrounding territories.  In verses 11 through 13, the writer gives a lot of detail but verse 14 is almost an afterthought.  The writer describes the flow of an unnamed river that flows out into four rivers.  Where this river is placed is important because it flows out to four critical locations.  The main regions were named after the people who first settled those regions according to scripture. The first place mentioned is the land of Havilah.  I will get back to Noah and the flood in a moment but if you look up the land of Havilah you will find that it is the name of the land now known as Arabia. Havilah is also the name of one of Noah’s great grandson.  The second place mentioned is the land of Cush which the Greeks called Ethiopia. Cush is one of Noah’s grandsons.  The land of Cush is on the African continent.  The writer went into a lot of detail to talk about what is found in Cush and Havilah.  What is interesting is the fact that the Nile flows northward, meaning, from south to north and at one point flowed to all of the regions mentioned by the writer of Genesis. Many scholars and theologians fail to mention or write about the similarities of the Nile and the unnamed river in the 2 nd chapter of Genesis.  Hmm, I wonder why? In the 14 th verse Tigris and Euphrates are mentioned as after thoughts with not much detail.  If we look at the way the passage says the river flowed into four heads, in order to flow to Tigris, Euphrates, Ethiopia and Arabia this river would have to flow north and not south.  This puts Eden somewhere in the continent of Africa. With this being the case it is highly unlikely that Adam and Eve would be, by American standards, white or Caucasian.  What is also mentioned in Genesis 3 : 8 are the words “…the cool of the day”(KJV).  There is no “cool of the day” without the warm or even hot of the day.  Hot and even warm means sun.  To my knowledge there were no buildings in Eden, so that meant that Adam and Eve were outside all day.  If you are out in the sun all day every day, it is impossible to have a light completion. One of Adam and Eve’s descendants was Noah.  I know you have heard about the flood but some taught the falsehood that Noah’s 3 sons represented the three hues of man (Mongoloid, Caucasoid and Negroid).  According to false teaching, a White man named Noah had a Black son named Ham, an Asian son named Japheth and a White son named Shem. It’s obvious that if Adam and Eve were dark skinned people from the continent of Africa then their descendants would be dark skinned as well.  By American standards, Noah and his family including his 3 sons were all of African descent.  In Genesis 10:6 we find that one of Ham’s descendants is Cush.  Remember the writer of Genesis called a region Cush that was near Eden.  The Greeks named the people of this region Ethiopians which means burnt faced people. The Greeks named where these people lived Ethiopia, because it was the land of the burnt faced people.  In other words, these people were dark skinned Negroid or black people.  In Genesis 10:7 Cush had a son named Havilah.  Havilah, as a reminder, settled in Arabia.  Scientists would even be hard pressed to prove that life began in Europe. What some would deem Caucasian people didn’t existed at this point in Genesis if you use Genesis as a historical guide to the beginnings of humanity. Once we get to the 11 th chapter, we reach the story of the tower of Babel. A brief synopsis goes like this; everybody on earth was in one place and decided to build a tower as high as they possibly could.  God sees what they are doing and knows that it is possible as long as they were unified.  In order to stop this building project God came down and caused everyone to speak different languages.  At this point those who spoke Spanish found others who spoke Spanish and migrated to Spain.  The same happened with English speaking people and so on and so forth.  If you think about it, those who went to colder climates adapted to those climates.  Over time, after many descendants, it’s safe to say they probably began to look different from the darker skinned people who remained in the hotter climates. Let’s move to the story of who is believed to be the writer of Genesis, Moses.  I’m sure you know or have read about Moses being put in a basket by his Sister to float down a river to a place where Pharaoh’s daughter was bathing in Egypt.  Moses was taken in by Pharaoh’s daughter and raised in the house of Pharaoh as her child.  There is no way Moses could have looked like Charlton Heston and flown under the radar in the house of Pharaoh.  Moses had to at least resemble the Egyptians to be treated as one of their own.  Keep in mind the Egyptians you see today are not the Egyptians Moses saw.  In 353 BC, Egypt fell to the Persians.  This fall meant that those peoples intermingled. Prior to that Egyptians looked like Ethiopians.  All of them were burnt faced people, according to the Greeks.  Keep in mind that this was not a derogatory term by the Greeks but merely the best description they had to describe dark skinned people.   With that said the Hebrew people including Moses had to look like the Cushites or Ethiopians or as the Greeks described burnt faced people.  Hold on to your hat for this one, according to American standards, Abraham and his descendants, including Moses, at the very least, looked like what Americans would describe as Negroid or black. I could go into all of the times Ethiopia and Egypt are mentioned in the Bible but to some that would seem heavy-handed.  Keep in mind I am only expounding on what the Bible clearly lays out about the appearance of certain people in scripture. There is so much biblical history about Africa that it would take much longer to go into all of the facts but I will point out something else that is quite interesting.  In Matthew 2:13 an angel of God tells Joseph to take his family to Egypt.  The angel gave these instruction to Jesus’ earthly father because Herod was about to kill all of the boys 2 years and younger around Bethlehem during that time. We’ve already noted that Egypt was a region of dark-skinned, African people.  Would God have His angel to tell Joseph to hide himself, his wife and Jesus in a region where they could be easily spotted?  Can you imagine Joseph, Mary and Jesus being white by American standards trying to move about in the midst of a bunch of dark-skinned people, African people?  To put it bluntly Herod would have found Jesus and killed him.  Going to Egypt was smart because they could blend in.  Wait a minute!!!  That means, by American standards, Jesus had to be black.  How do I come to this conclusion?  First, he had to look Egyptian, second, he was a descendant of Abraham and third, he was in a sun drenched region that is still very close to Africa. One last thing, check out Acts 21:37-39.  A Roman commander thought Paul was an Egyptian.  Even the Apostle Paul looked like what Americans would call a black maan. According to Ephesians 1:7 “ He is so rich in kindness and grace that he purchased our freedom with the blood of his Son and forgave our sins .”  Is this passage saying that the the whole body of Christ is black according to America’s “one-drop rule”? Ok, I have now scared a lot of people so let me say here that in the Bible skin color didn’t matter.  Unfortunately in a lot of art and literature skin color mattered too much. Sadly in most American churches Africa is conveniently forgotten about as it relates to biblical history. Christianity is for all people of all colors and nationalities. I just wish that the African presence in scripture was not extracted through ignorance or blatant racism. With that said,  the Church should be more like the church was in Antioch.  In Acts 13:1 we see that many nationalities were in this church’s congregation. This blog should help dispel the myth that Christianity is a “White Man’s” religion.

African Americans Can Find Themselves In The Bible

Why Do We Call This Holy Week?

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At this season of the year, we celebrate the grandeur of God’s creation in the beauty of the flowers and the return of the robins. We clasp our loved ones in rituals of food and drink, laughter and embrace. Some of us will also sit in services of silence, music, and sacred readings. We will contemplate the mystery of the holy and the sanctity of all life. In the Christian calendar, yesterday was Palm Sunday, the beginning of Holy Week. During this week Christians are asked to reflect on the meaning of Jesus’ death on the cross, an event that took place nearly two millennia ago at a place which still remains the epicenter of religious and political violence today. By lunar coincidence, this week also marks, on Tuesday, the festival of Pesah, or Passover, the most celebrated Jewish holiday of the year. Passover commemorates God’s deliverance of the children of Israel from slavery in Egypt. Jesus had gone to Jerusalem to celebrate Passover with his disciples when he was caught in the web of events that led to his death. While most Jews do not recognize Jesus as the Messiah, the New Testament weaves the central events of this week into one overarching story of redemptive history. As St. Paul put it, “For Christ, our paschal lamb, has been sacrificed” (1 Corinthians 5:7). To those who would reduce the meaning of this week to a mere fable connoting existential truth, Christians say: “What you call myth that is history!” and, conversely, “What you call history that is a myth!” The myth of human self-sufficiency, the illusion that the ebb and flow of nature’s passions are all we need to build a human life upon, the fantastic hoax that lasting moral order in the world can be derived from the will to power or political ingenuity alone It is the fact that something happened back then and there, in space and in time, something so shattering that the grinding wheels of fate were stopped by it and death is now no longer allowed to have the final word. Related Stories Who Do You Call King Of Glory?

Why Do We Call This Holy Week?

Federal Reserve Examiners Tell Oklahoma Bank to Scrap Christmas Buttons, Online Bible Verse

KOCO-TV in Oklahoma City reported that Christianity was apparently offensive, government bank examiners determined in a bank visit in Perkins, Oklahoma. Federal Reserve examiners come every four years to make sure banks are complying with a long list of regulations. The examiners came to Perkins last week. And the team from Kansas City deemed a Bible verse of the day, crosses on the teller’s counter, and buttons that say “Merry Christmas, God With Us” were inappropriate. The Bible verse of the day on the bank's Internet site also had to be taken down. read more

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Media’s Double Standard Continues When Reporting Child Sex Abuse

Here are two stories from this past week: 1. “A [newly released] General Accountability Office (GAO) investigation has found that people with histories of sexual misconduct are still getting hired by school systems across the [United States] … The biggest problem may be 'passing the trash.' These were cases GAO found in which school systems just let suspected sexual offenders resign, and even wrote them glowing letters of recommendation, so they could find teaching jobs elsewhere.” 2. “The Dublin (Ireland) Archdiocese should have taken action years earlier against Tony Walsh , probably the most notorious child sexual abuser among its priests, according to [a] commission investigating clerical child sex allegations in the archdiocese.” The Church laicized Walsh (removed him as a priest) in 1995. read more

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CNN Misinterprets Pope’s Condom Remarks; NBC Offers Accurate Coverage

On Monday's Newsroom, CNN's Kyra Phillips gave a false impression of Pope Benedict XVI's recent comments about condoms. While the Pope stated that condom use “can be a first step…on the way toward recovering an awareness that not everything is allowed,” Phillips stated that the pontiff ” says condoms are okay sometimes .” Refreshingly, Monday's Today show on NBC accurately covered Benedict's remarks. The anchor previewed CNN correspondent Atika Schubert's report on the pontiff's comments 10 minutes into the 9 am Eastern hour with her inaccurate description: “Well, the Catholic Church and condoms: two things that have never really gone together until now. The Pope, quoted in a new book, says condoms are okay sometimes. Now, that's a talker! ” After a commercial break, Phillips continued with another misleading statement: PHILLIPS: Pope Benedict is bending a bit when it comes to condoms. A new book actually quotes him as saying that they are okay to use in certain circumstances, like to prevent disease, not birth control. It's the first time the Church has ever talked about exceptions to the condom rule. …Here's a part of what the Pope says in the book. See if your eyebrows raise a little bit. It says- quote, ' There could be single cases that can be justified. For instance, when a prostitute uses a condom .' Say what? (laughs) Doesn't it kind of sound like the Pope is justifying prostitution, too? Surely not, but what a bizarre analogy. read more

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A Very New York Times Thanksgiving: An Interfaith Service ‘Transcending’ Christianity for Woody Guthrie

Thanksgiving may have begun in America as a Christian event, but The New York Times is much fonder of an event that “transcends” that persnickety Jesus-is-the-way-and-the-truth Christianity and celebrates the vaguely Unitarian left. Longtime Times reporter Peter Applebome championed an event in Pleasantville, New York in his “Our Towns” column on Monday : Maybe it took a country-and-western rabbi to put together the interfaith Thanksgiving service that ended Sunday with Christians, Jews, Muslims and Buddhists singing “This Land Is Your Land” along with Woody Guthrie's daughter, Nora Guthrie. Rabbi Mark Sameth of the local synagogue (who told Applebome that “George Jones is God”) and Rev. Stephen Phillips, the local Methodist minister, put together the interfaith hootenanny, but don’t call it liberal. Just call it… “off-center.” read more

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CNN’s Phillips Endorses Liberal Minister Critical of Blacks’ Attitudes on Homosexuality

CNN’s Kyra Phillips gave a ringing endorsement to a Christian minister and his heterodox views on homosexuality on Monday’s Newsroom. Phillips interviewed televangelist Bishop Carlton Pearson, who, in her words, went ” out on a limb …[to] say gays are accepted in heaven ,” and concluded the segment by stating how she ” respect [s] very much ” what he preached on the highly-debated moral issue. The anchor led the 10 am Eastern hour with the allegations against Bishop Eddie Long, who has been sued by four young men so far who accuse him of coercing them into sexual relationships. Four minutes into the hour, Phillips introduced Pearson as a ” pioneering black televangelist and a close friend of Eddie Long’s…[who] l ost a lot of his flock when he began preaching that everyone has a place in heaven, including gay people .” She first asked the bishop, ” Why did you go out on a limb and say gays are accepted in heaven, something that the black church disagrees with? ” Pearson lauded his “gay friends” as ” some of the most sensitive, loving, creative, ingenious, generous people ” and touted how he ” started preaching the Gospel of inclusion ” and criticized how supposedly ” the devotion to the devil and hell is stronger, or as strong as anybody’s devotion to Jesus in many of the Christian circles .” After spending some time discussing what Pearson knew of Long, Phillips posited what would happen if the accused minister came out as a homosexual: “What if he does come forward, Bishop, and say, I told you I wasn’t a perfect man and I’ve been- I have been struggling with this issue, and he does say that he’s gay. What if this story changes? How will you deal with that? Will you accept him? Will you embrace him? How would you counsel him as his friend?” The CNN anchor’s guest devoted some of his subsequent answer to again criticizing the traditional Christian teaching on homosexuality and sexuality in general: “How do we deal with our sexual side, our sensual side, our spiritual side? They- because they interplay. They interact. So, it’s- it’s wrong for- I’m not for Christian cannibalism, eating our dead or dying, destroying them the way we do so many people .” Phillips and Pearson devoted most of the second half of the segment to discussing and critiquing black cultural attitudes towards homosexuality: PHILLIPS: You’ve talked about this as well, the issue of being a black gay man, especially in the Church, and a man within ministry- gospel music. There have been allegations that have come forward, there have been individuals that have come forward and said, I’m gay and have been completely shut out of the black church because of that. PEARSON: Yes. PHILLIPS: Why is it so unacceptable to be a black man and to be gay and to lead a flock? Why is it so taboo? PEARSON: Well, first of all- PHILLIPS: It’s not just biblical. I mean, there’s a cultural feeling here . PEARSON: Of course. Yes. That’s for white folks. Y’all are supposed to do, when in comes to that. We don’t do that kind of stuff. We [are] real men. That’s- I said that in jest, but that’s the underlying- PHILLIPS: No, but that’s interesting. That’s what’s going on. PEARSON: Yes. That’s we don’t do weird stuff. Now, the other hypocritical aspect of that is our churches, Kyra, are filled with same gender loving people, from the music department to the pulpits- black music, church music- where would it be without our same gender loving or gay musicians and singers? Not all of them are. PHILLIPS: But many have come to you and said, I’m gay, but I can’t come out. PEARSON: Oh, yes. Oh yes. PHILLIPS: And we’re talking very powerful people in the gospel industry. PEARSON: Yes, ma’am. PHILLIPS: I’ve met them. PEARSON: Yes, ma’am. With tears in their eyes, they were afraid. T here are people who’ve come to me and say, I embraced your gospel of inclusion, Bishop, but I can’t- it’s not a theological issue with me. It’s a business decision. I’ll lose my flock. I’ll lose my money. I’ll lose my parishioners. I’ll lose myself. I can’t love everybody. I can’t even love me, he would say. And I want to say to that group- and this is a wake-up call. Until the church, black or otherwise- confronts- not combats- confronts this issue of human sexuality and homosexuality, which is not going away- homosexuals and homosexuality is not going away- if every gay person in our church just left or those who have an orientation or preference or an inclination, or a fantasy, if everyone left, we wouldn’t have a church . The bishop even specifically targeted the Catholic Church in his criticism of traditional Christianity: PEARSON: There are gay doctors, police officers, attorneys, priests. Look at the whole Catholic Church. All this idea of celibacy. It’s not even natural, but it’s out. It’s like the Christian Church is having to confront its issues, its platonic, plastic, superficial portrayals of an angry God, a vicious God, an eternal place where everybody’s going to burn and this God with this terrible anger management problem who’s going to get you and then He’s going to turn you over to the devil, who’s going to accuse you to Him, and it’s fairy tale stuff. But we bought into it, and now we’re having to face the fact that maybe we missed it on many of these issues. Phillips enthusiastically responded to Pearson’s out-of-the-mainstream theology at the end of the interview: ” Well, I respect very much what you’ve preached, so I look forward to talking to you more about this .” This stance isn’t at all surprising, as the CNN anchor endorsed three of her previous guests who hold similarly heterodox views inside Christianity during a March 26, 2010 segment. She even brought back two of them a month later . CNN, as a whole, has latched onto promoting the agenda of homosexual advocacy groups during 2010. On August 4, the day that a federal judge overturned California’s Proposition 8, the network leaned mostly towards those who opposed the voter-approved amendment which bans same-sex “marriage.” A month and a half earlier, senior political analyst Gloria Borger gave a glowing profile of Ted Olson and David Boies , the two main attorneys who worked to overturn Prop 8. CNN also premiered their pro-homosexual parenting documentary, ” Gary and Tony Have a Baby ,” on June 24 and promoted it with a series of pro-homosexual agenda segments during that month.

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Maher: ‘I’m Against a Church Anywhere’

Comedian Bill Maher took his anti-religion, anti-conservative views off HBO and into the mainstream Sept. 13 during an appearance on NBC’s “Tonight Show.” Maher told host Jay Leno he’s against the Ground Zero Mosque, because he’s “against a mosque anywhere. I’m against a church anywhere, or a Hindu temple or a synagogue.” Maher declared that houses of worship are “places that people go to retell nonsense stories from a time before men understood what a germ or an atom was, or where the sun went at night. They try to telepathically communicate with their imaginary friend. These are places that fleece people, and scare people and they perpetuate mass delusion. We shouldn’t build any of them.” But Maher conceded that because the First Amendment protects freedom of religion, “they should be able to build them anywhere.” He also attacked conservatives and Sarah Palin, calling her an “evil dingbat.” Maher, 54, referred to the Tea Party as “the Pee Party,” describing members as “nativist bed-wetters who somehow control our national dialogue.” “They’re just, they’re afraid of a mosque being built inNew York,” he said. “They’re afraid of guns. You know, they think Obama, who like every other pussy Democrat, has never said a single word about gun control, but they’re very sure that he, he and his negro army are coming after, coming after their guns. You know what? If you think he’s coming after your guns, you need to get out of your chat room, and have your house tested for lead. He’s not coming after your guns or your Bible or your fishing pole or your chewing tobacco and there’s not a monster under your bed. That’s the ab lounger you ordered and never used.” Maher did acknowledge one difference between Christians and Muslims many in the media overlook. “They have nuts and we have nuts,” Maher said, talking about Muslims and presumably non-Muslims. “Their nuts are a lot more numerous and lot more violent. That mouth breather down inFlorida who was going to burn a Koran, what would have happened? Nothing. To retaliate, you know, they could have burned our most sacred book, ‘Eat, Pray, Love.;” No, they could have burned the Bible and nothing would have happened, okay? So you have to recognize that difference, too.”

Scarborough: Right-Wing Bloggers Criticizing Mika For Cutting Off Pastor Jones Are ‘Crazy People’

Crazy? I’ll give you crazy . . . Last Friday Mika Brzezinski and Morning Joe engaged in some strange and possibly unprecedented TV “journalism.”  They invited Terry Jones—the potentially Koran-burning pastor—on the show via live feed, gave former Newsweek editor Jon Meachem the chance to lecture him about Christianity and implore him not to proceed with his plan . . . then summarily cut the feed without giving Jones the chance to say word one in response. “We don’t really need to hear anything else” declared Mika , as she shut down the pastor’s microphone. A number of bloggers, including NB’s own Matt Hadro and me , noted and criticized Mika’s bizarre move.  But there was Joe Scarborough on the show today, mockingly writing off Mika’s critics as “crazy people.” Joe’s contemptuous comment came in response to guest Joe Conason’s observation that, judging by the response in the blogosphere, NYC Mayor Mike Bloomberg’s muscular support of the Ground Zero Mosque has probably put paid to any possible presidential ambitions on his part. JOE CONASON: [Bloomberg] made what I think was a highly-praiseworthy decision to sacrifice the idea of running nationally when he took such a strong stand. If you read what people are saying about him in the blogosphere — JOE SCARBOROUGH: Who cares?  Who reads that crap? CONASON: I do.  It’s my job. SCARBOROUGH: You know what? There’s going to be anger. Of course we all read blogs, too.  There are people outraged, I mean, there are people outraged on the right that Mika didn’t give time to that preacher that wants to burn Korans and get American troops killed overseas.  So there’re crazy people on both sides. Instead of school-yard name-calling, it would have been interesting to hear Scarborough’s serious defense—if one he has—of inviting a guest on with knowledge aforethought that he was going to be lectured and not accorded an opportunity to respond.  

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Rick Sanchez to Pataki: Did Your Opposition to Mosque Lead to Koran Burning?

On Wednesday’s Rick’s List, CNN’s Rick Sanchez tried to connect the overwhelming opposition to the planned Ground Zero mosque to a Florida pastor’s “Burn a Koran Day” event. Sanchez asked former New York Governor George Pataki, ” Do you feel in any way that some of this backlash … led by some fine gentlemen like yourself … has kind of paved the way for that controversy, and if so, do you feel guilty at all? ” Sanchez interviewed Pataki during the prime time edition of his program. Just before the bottom of the 8 pm Eastern hour, the anchor raised Pastor Terry Jones’s planned inflammatory protest: “Let me ask you one final question, if I possibly can. There’s this new hullabaloo going on in Gainesville, Florida, with this pastor who wants to literally burn Korans. And now, we’re getting protests in Afghanistan- our generals are saying this guy’s going to get our troops killed.” The CNN personality then asked his question. Pataki didn’t even acknowledge the premise behind his question, and launched into a condemnation of Jones: “I can’t claim or understand what the motive of this person in Florida is. All I can say is that it’s wrong, it’s reprehensible, and it should be condemned by all Americans. And it’s just- we are a free and a tolerant society. Any sign of bigotry, such as this person is talking about in Florida, is utterly unacceptable and has to be condemned.” This isn’t the first time that Sanchez has asked an out-of-the-ordinary question on the Ground Zero mosque issue. During an earlier interview of Pataki on August 10 , the anchor bizarrely wondered whether investigating the funding behind the planned mosque would lead to investigations into Catholic and/or Mormon funding: ” If you start going into who is giving money … you’ve got to go to Rome and start asking where the money is going into Rome …. and you have to go the Mormons and ask … what are they doing with their money? ” The transcript of relevant portion of the segment from Wednesday’s Rick’s List: SANCHEZ: Let me ask you one final question, if I possibly can. There’s this new hullabaloo going on in Gainesville, Florida, with this pastor who wants to literally burn Korans. And now, we’re getting protests in Afghanistan- our generals are saying this guy’s going to get our troops killed. Do you feel in any way that some of this backlash that has been seen, led by some fine gentlemen like yourself in New York City, has kind of paved the way for that controversy, and if so, do you feel guilty at all? PATAKI: I can’t claim or understand what the motive of this person in Florida is. All I can say is that it’s wrong, it’s reprehensible, and it should be condemned by all Americans. And it’s just- we are a free and a tolerant society. Any sign of bigotry, such as this person is talking about in Florida, is utterly unacceptable and has to be condemned. SANCHEZ: George Pataki, former governor of the State of New York, thanks for coming by, sir. PATAKI: Thank you, Rick.

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