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Joy Behar Lectures Pastor About Homosexuality on ‘The View’, Insists Biblical View Leads to Bullying

ABC's “The View” hosted pastor Joel Osteen Tuesday, author of the book The Christmas Spirit – but the conversation took a controversial turn and went from Christmas to homosexuality. Co-host Joy Behar belittled Osteen about his conservative Christian beliefs on the matter. ABC's Barbara Walters first popped the question in the middle of the interview, flagging it was a “controversial” topic. She referenced a previous quote made by Osteen on the show about homosexuality not being “God's best” for a person's life. Walters asked him how he felt about a Georgia pastor who recently came out and said he was gay. After Osteen's tepid response, Behar interrupted him and flatly lectured him that homosexuality is natural. “It's not a choice, Pastor,” she asserted. “It's not a choice, and therefore I don't think that God would look askance at homosexuality in that way, because it's not a choice. They're born this way, people are born this way.”

Move Over Priest: Celebrity Preacher Eddie Long Faces Third Sex Abuse Claim

I spoke, personally, to a friend here in Atlanta that used to attend New Birth Missionary Baptist Church and grew up with Eddie Long in Baltimore, Maryland. He told that the inner circle of Long's entourage has always known about his passion and desire for young boys. One of the accusers was involved in a break in at the church last year. One of the things stolen was the Bishop's Iphone. The young man knew that the phone was the smoking gun because of the incriminating numbers and messages it carried. New Birth Missionary Baptist Church, with it's 30,000 members, has the largest African American congregation in the southeast region of the United States. I'm just not surprised. Don't ask me why, I'm just not. ___________________________________________________________ (Sept. 22) — A third lawsuit has been filed accusing Bishop Eddie Long of coercing young men in his Atlanta megachurch into having sex in exchange for cash and cars. The suit was filed today in DeKalb County Superior Court, in Georgia, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported. Earlier today, a spokesman for the pastor said the two other young men who have filed lawsuits against Long are out to stake their claim on his fortune and called the allegations baseless. The allegations against the leader of a 25,000-plus-member church are particularly explosive because of Long's outspoken views on homosexuality. The Southern Poverty Law Center calls the New Birth Missionary Baptist Church leader “one of the most virulently homophobic black leaders in the religiously based anti-gay movement” and noted that he has referred to homosexuality and lesbianism as “spiritual abortions.” In the lawsuit filed Tuesday in DeKalb County, Ga., the two men accuse Long of exploiting his influence to coerce the then-teenagers into sexual relationships with him for years. Johnny Nunez, Wire Image Two men have filed a lawsuit alleging Bishop Eddie Long, here in 2007, coerced them into sexual relationships when they were teenagers. The lawsuit says Long, 57, has a long pattern of “singling out a select group of young male church members” and using his influence to engage in “sexual acts and relationships for his own personal sexual gratification.” The suit says the pastor — leader of New Birth Missionary Baptist Church in the Atlanta suburb of Lithonia — referred to the teenagers as “spiritual sons” and instructed them to follow their “master.” In exchange, they claim, Long introduced them to celebrities like film director Tyler Perry, according to The New York Times. Art Franklin told CNN the claims are nothing more than “a case of retaliation and a shakedown for money by men with some serious credibility issues” and are “definitely without merit.” Franklin noted that one of the accusers was arrested earlier this year and charged with breaking into the church's offices and stealing an iPad and an iPhone. The attorney for the men, Brenda Joy Bernstein, says the June 23 break-in was committed out of anger, when one of the plaintiffs discovered that Long had similar relationships with other young men in the congregation. “He lashed out,” Bernstein told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. “But if it weren't for that act, we wouldn't know about this. He talked to his friends and learned Long had other 'spiritual sons.'” But not all of the church's members see it that way. Samuel Midgette, 40, said he doesn't believe the allegations, in part because of often Long speaks about his wife in glowing terms. “A man who talks about his wife as much as he do…I can't see it. Unless I'm blind,” Midgette told AOL News today in a phone interview. He said the men making the claims are likely after Long's money. “People don't believe this,” he said. “I think this is all about money.” The lawsuit charges that the abuse began when one of the men was 16. According to the suit, Long put the teenager on the church's payroll, bought him a Chevy Malibu and took him on trips to Turks and Caicos, New York and New Zealand. In New Zealand, Long “regularly engaged in sexual touching and sexual acts” with the teenager, the lawsuit says. Long “categorically denies the allegations,” his attorney, Craig Gillen, told The Associated Press. “We find it unfortunate that these two young men would take this course of action.” Gillen did not immediately return a call to AOL News. Bernstein says church officials knew about the abuse and failed to stop it. “They would do everything to protect the most powerful church in the Southeast,” she told the Times. Long's church hosts a program titled “Out of the Wilderness” that claims to help cure its participants of homosexuality. In 2006, when the family of Martin Luther King Jr. chose New Birth Missionary Baptist Church as the location for Coretta Scott King's funeral, civil rights leader Julian Bond refused to attend. Bond said King's widow supported gay rights and never would have wanted to be in the presence of Long. “I knew her attitude toward gay and lesbian rights. And I just couldn't imagine that she'd want to be in that church with a minister who was a raving homophobe,” Bond told told AOL's Black Voices in 2006. “And I couldn't see myself in my church either.” added by: keithponder

MSNBC’s Wolffe Repeats Debunked Newsweek Claim of Koran Flushed Down Toilet by Guantanamo Interrogators

Appearing as a guest on Friday’s Countdown show, MSNBC political analyst Richard Wolffe – formerly of Newsweek – referred to the debunked story that was retracted by Newsweek in May 2005 which had incorrectly claimed that American interrogators at Guantanamo Bay had flushed a Koran down a toilet to intimidate Muslim prisoners. But Wolffe did not inform viewers that the story was untrue as he accused conservatives of a double standard for criticizing Newsweek’s inaccurate Koran desecration story from 2005 while not being aggressive enough in condemning Pastor Terry Jones’s declaration that he would burn the Koran on September 11. Wolffe: I’m struck all the time with this story about the experience of those of us who worked in Newsweek – not the least of whom is Mike Isikoff now at NBC News who wrote a story about the abuse of the Koran in Guantanamo Bay , and there were riots and people died and the overwhelming torrent of abuse from conservative, the echo chamber, more than elected officials I think, certainly from conservative media, was that Newsweek had lied and people died. That’s what they said. Newsweek’s erroneous story inspired riots and a significant number of deaths in 2005 before it was retracted by the magazine, although, as previously documented by the MRC, Newsweek buried its retraction. Below is a transcript of the relevant portion of the Friday, September 10, Countdown show on MSNBC: KEITH OLBERMANN: The Republicans, on the other hand, are sounding like almost nothing. We reported Tuesday on the deafening silence of the leaders who previously told us, “Listen to General Petraeus,” and this time they had nothing to say, and obviously some have broken their silence since, but even then most have been tentative or brief or even offensive at the analysis that, or the analogy I made to Captain Chowdhury, equating the book burning to building buildings. Do you have a perception of what Republicans are trying to do or not do about this issue? RICHARD WOLFFE: Republicans are in a strange situation now, as well. The politics is weird for them. Remember that, for all the confidence about taking about Congress, there’s a certain amount of fear in the Republican party. They’re worried about the challenge from the right from the Tea Party, which in the first incident has been directed at fellow Republicans, not at Democrats. But, you know, if you’re going to equate something with Koran burning, you know, I’m struck all the time with this story about the experience of those of us who worked in Newsweek – not the least of whom is Mike Isikoff now at NBC News who wrote a story about the abuse of the Koran in Guantanamo Bay, and there were riots and people died and the overwhelming torrent of abuse from conservative, the echo chamber, more than elected officials I think, certainly from conservative media, was that Newsweek had lied and people died. That’s what they said. And I don’t hear similar things now about someone who’s abusing, threatening to abuse the Koran and the kinds of impact that the generals, the commander in chief is saying is going to happen. So if you’re going to equate things, let’s treat apples with apples.

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Pastor Terry Jones Church Website Taken Down!

The Pastor from a Florida church who is at the height of a controversy over burning the copies of the Koran to mark the ninth anniversary of the September 11 attacks had his website… http://bit.ly/aKQASA added by: itgrunts

Wash Post’s Anne Kornblut: Why, Despite Obama’s Healing Efforts, Is There So Much Anti-Muslim ‘Resentment?’

Washington Post staff writer Anne Kornblut used her question at a White House press conference on Friday to worry that, despite Barack Obama making it a “priority,” anti-Muslim “suspicion” still existed in America. She queried the President, ” Nine years after the September 11th attacks, why do you think it is that we are now seeing such an increase in suspicion and outright resentment of Islam, especially given that it has been one of your priorities to improve relations with the Muslim world? ” [MP3 audio here .] Obama’s response seemed to echo his infamous 2008 comment about Americans being “bitter” and “clinging” to their guns. He proclaimed, “You know, I think that at a time when the country is anxious generally and going through a tough time, then, you know, fears can surface, suspicions, divisions can surface in a society. And, so, I think that plays a role in it.” On April 11, 2008 , the then-Senator condescended, “It’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.” Of course, Kornblut had no follow-up and didn’t challenge Obama on his latest assertion. A transcript of the September 10 question and answer can be found below: 11:32 ANNE KORNBLUT: Thank you, Mr. President. Nine years after the September 11 th attacks, why do you think it is that we are now seeing such an increase in suspicion and outright resentment of Islam, especially given that it has been one of your priorities to improve relations with the Muslim world? BARACK OBAMA: You know, I think that at a time when the country is anxious generally and going through a tough time, then, you know, fears can surface, suspicions, divisions can surface in a society. And, so, I think that plays a role in it. One of the things that I most admired about President Bush was after 9/11, him being crystal clear about the fact that we were not at war with Islam. We were at war with terrorists and murderers who had perverted Islam, had stolen its banner to carry out its outrageous acts. I was so proud of the country rallying around that idea, that notion that we are not going to be divided by religion. We’re not going to be divided by ethnicity. We are all Americans and we stand together against those who would try to do us harm. And that’s what we’ve done over the last nine years. We should take great pride in that. And I think it is absolutely important now for the overwhelming majority of the American people to hang on to that thing that is best in us, a belief in religious tolerance, clarity about who are enemies are. Our enemies are al Qaeda and their allies who are trying to kill us, but have killed more Muslims than just about anybody on Earth. You know, we have to make sure that we don’t start turning on each other and I will do everything that I can as long as I’m President of the United States to remind the American people that we are one nation under God and we may call that god different names. But we remain one nation and, you know, as somebody who, you know, relies heavily on my Christian faith in my job, I understand, you know, that the passions that religious faith can, can raise. But I’m also respectful that people of different faiths can practice their religion, even if they don’t subscribe to the exact same notions that I do. And that they are still good people and they are my neighbors and they are my friends and they are fighting alongside us in our battles. And, you know, I want to make sure that this country retains that sense of purpose. And I think tomorrow is a wonderful day for us to remind ourselves of that.

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Morning Joe Cuts Pastor Jones Before He Has Chance to Respond to Panel

In what had to be the ultimate in condescension and elitism, MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” brought Pastor Terry Jones on the show merely to lecture him on Christianity, cutting him off before he could even respond. Co-host Mika Brzezinski explained to him “we don’t really need to hear anything else, so thanks.” Newsbusters’ Mark Finkelstein first briefly reported on this segment this morning. Panel member Jon Meacham, the departing editor of Newsweek, briefly preached to Pastor Jones on Jesus’ New Testament message of love and forgiveness and then appealed to him “as a fellow Christian” to not follow through with his threats to burn the Koran. Then, before Pastor Jones responded, his live feed was cut and co-host Mika Brzezinski continued with the show, saying that they did not need to listen to Pastor Jones. “The central message of the New Testament is forgiveness, and to put oneself in the place of another,” Meacham lectured Pastor Jones on planning to burn copies of the Koran. “And so I would simply appeal to you, as a fellow Christian, that the course you suggested is going to be incredibly dangerous, and would ask you to desist in the name of New Testament theology.” After Jones’ feed was cut, Mika remarked “Well said, Jon Meacham. And Pastor Terry Jones, we appeal to you to listen to that. And we don’t really need to hear anything else, so thanks.” The show featured a bizarre segment earlier on Pastor Jones’ threat, which he retracted from Thursday and now is not sure whether he will follow through on his plan. Both conservative Pat Buchanan and liberal Donny Deutsch agreed with each other that President Obama, as Commander-in-Chief, needs to step in and arrest the Pastor before reactions in the Middle East by militant Islamists result in the death of American troops. Donny Deutsch was still fuming over an hour later, when the Pastor’s feed was cut. Deutsch said he wanted to confront Jones as a “terrorist,” calling him “scum” and saying that “seeing his face is disgusting enough.” “I don’t think there should be a peaceful message,” Deutsch said in dealing with the pastor. “Sometimes screaming is okay.” A transcript of the segment, which aired on September 10 at 7:30 a.m. EDT, is as follows: MIKA BRZEZINSKI: We’ve really been debating whether or not to do this. Joe says “no,” he doesn’t think it’s a good idea at all. He might be right. The Florida pastor, threatening to burn copies of the Koran tomorrow, is now saying his plans are “on hold,” after a local Imam told him that the proposed New York Islamic center near Ground Zero would be moved. And joining us now from Gainesville, Florida, is pastor Terry Jones. And the reason we’re doing this is my worry is that the pastor’s going to have blood on his hands if he goes forward with this plan. So Jon Meacham just has a quick message for you, sir. Jon? JON MEACHAM, Editor, Newsweek: Pastor, I just wanted to – this is Jon Meachem. I just wanted to suggest that Jesus said the night before he was handed over to suffering and death that he ordered his disciples to love one another as he had loved them. That was his central commandment, and as he died, he said that “Father forgive them, for they know not what they do.” The central message of the New Testament is forgiveness, and to put oneself in the place of another. And so I would simply appeal to you, as a fellow Christian, that the course you suggested is going to be incredibly dangerous, and would ask you to desist in the name of New Testament theology. (Cut Live Feed) BRZEZINSKI: Alright, well said Jon Meachem, and Pastor Terry Jones we appeal to you to listen to that. And we don’t really need to hear anything else, so thanks. Alright, moving on. Donnie, you disagreed. You wanted to talk to him. DONNY DEUTSCH, Chairman, Deutsch, Inc.: Yeah, I think, and I understand why you guys don’t want to give him a platform. I mean, seeing his face is disgusting enough. But a lot – this kind of reach out, that we’ve come to a country where sometimes action needs to be taken. We’re at war, to – in the previous segment, this is obviously a bigger issue of, you know, Islamic hate running amuk. And we need to make a stand. And this guy, he’s scum, he is not a man of God – BRZEZINSKI: Now what productive nature would saying that to him have? (Crosstalk) DEUTSCH: Yes, everybody’s pussyfooting around with this guy! BRZEZINSKI: I’m not. We’re giving him a very peaceful message that (unintelligible) DEUTSCH: I don’t think there should be a peaceful message. This is a terrorist of a different form. He is no different than terrorists that are holding this country hostage. DAN SENOR, Senior Fellow, Council on Foreign Relations: You confronting him the way you want to confront him will build him up, get him even more ___ than he already is? Or is it actually going to make him less relevant? I think you will make him more relevant. DEUTSCH: He’s relevant! He’s relevant there, and I think 99 percent of this country feels the way I do and wants some action, and I just – I really believe that. And he’s already – SENOR: What you want to do is not action! DEUTSCH: The toothpaste – the toothpaste is out of the bottle. No, I want our President, our Commander-in-Chief to act like a Commander-in-Chief and say “This is putting our country in harm’s way right now.” We have the General of our troops over there saying that. Act like a Commander-in-Chief and stop this from happening. Somehow, someway. That’s all I’m asking. BRZEZINSKI: Okay. You know what? Screaming at him – DEUTSCH: Sometimes screaming is okay. Yeah. Sometimes screaming is okay. SENOR: Donnie, can I – the principle of the President stepping in is a principle you would be committed to if this were President Bush in a time of war saying “I need to take action against say the Imam, Imam Rauf. The mosque he’s building is going to inflame people, it’s going to be viewed as a monument of military victory, and we need to shut that down. Would you be comfortable with that? DEUTSCH: The video of burning the Koran around the world – SENOR: That’s not for you to decide. The question is are you for the principle of the President on these grounds to step in? BRZEZINSKI: Pat, before we go to a break, your thoughts? PAT BUCHANAN: Mika, the mosque is a matter of the culture war. This thing down in Florida is a matter of the real war. And let me say that if Gen. Petraeus, as he has done, tells his commander-in-chief “My men are in danger, they will die if this thing goes forward, and you as Commander-in-Chief do not act, and then men die as a consequence of that, men are lynched in the Middle East, Americans are killed, you are not qualified to be Commander-in-Chief in my judgment if you cannot act to save the boys you sent into battle. BRZEZINSKI: Meachem? MEACHAM: There’s got to be a way through this that is not going to violate the Constitution, and can preserve some sense of our culture of liberty, which is the message we have to send around the world. This is what we’re fighting for, this is what the country is about. And it’s repulsive what’s going on in Florida, but we unfortunately – repulsive things happen here. And we just can’t – BRZEZINSKI: And around this table, by the way, we all love each other very much, and a lot of us disagree. But we do, as you say Jon, have to find our way through it.

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Buchanan & Deutsch: Imprison Pastor To Prevent Koran-Burning

Talk about your strange bedfellows . . . Both Pat Buchanan and Donny Deutsch have advocated the arrest of Pastor Terry Jones to prevent his possible burning of Korans and the danger to US troops such act would threaten.   The paleo-conservative and the New York liberal made common cause on today’s Morning Joe.  They were outnumbered by Mika Brzezinski, Dan Senor and John Heilemann, all of whom opposed the arrest-the-pastor proposal on First Amendment grounds. Buchanan and Deutsch expressed disregard for the First Amendment implications. Buchanan asserted that if Pres. Obama were to follow his advice, conservatives would support him and his popularity would zoom 10% overnight.  View video here. I encourage readers to view the video, weigh the arguments, and weigh in on our comments board.  My two cents say the move would be as impractical as it is unconstitutional, having repercussions that would turn the current situation into a fiasco.

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Rick Sanchez to Pataki: Did Your Opposition to Mosque Lead to Koran Burning?

On Wednesday’s Rick’s List, CNN’s Rick Sanchez tried to connect the overwhelming opposition to the planned Ground Zero mosque to a Florida pastor’s “Burn a Koran Day” event. Sanchez asked former New York Governor George Pataki, ” Do you feel in any way that some of this backlash … led by some fine gentlemen like yourself … has kind of paved the way for that controversy, and if so, do you feel guilty at all? ” Sanchez interviewed Pataki during the prime time edition of his program. Just before the bottom of the 8 pm Eastern hour, the anchor raised Pastor Terry Jones’s planned inflammatory protest: “Let me ask you one final question, if I possibly can. There’s this new hullabaloo going on in Gainesville, Florida, with this pastor who wants to literally burn Korans. And now, we’re getting protests in Afghanistan- our generals are saying this guy’s going to get our troops killed.” The CNN personality then asked his question. Pataki didn’t even acknowledge the premise behind his question, and launched into a condemnation of Jones: “I can’t claim or understand what the motive of this person in Florida is. All I can say is that it’s wrong, it’s reprehensible, and it should be condemned by all Americans. And it’s just- we are a free and a tolerant society. Any sign of bigotry, such as this person is talking about in Florida, is utterly unacceptable and has to be condemned.” This isn’t the first time that Sanchez has asked an out-of-the-ordinary question on the Ground Zero mosque issue. During an earlier interview of Pataki on August 10 , the anchor bizarrely wondered whether investigating the funding behind the planned mosque would lead to investigations into Catholic and/or Mormon funding: ” If you start going into who is giving money … you’ve got to go to Rome and start asking where the money is going into Rome …. and you have to go the Mormons and ask … what are they doing with their money? ” The transcript of relevant portion of the segment from Wednesday’s Rick’s List: SANCHEZ: Let me ask you one final question, if I possibly can. There’s this new hullabaloo going on in Gainesville, Florida, with this pastor who wants to literally burn Korans. And now, we’re getting protests in Afghanistan- our generals are saying this guy’s going to get our troops killed. Do you feel in any way that some of this backlash that has been seen, led by some fine gentlemen like yourself in New York City, has kind of paved the way for that controversy, and if so, do you feel guilty at all? PATAKI: I can’t claim or understand what the motive of this person in Florida is. All I can say is that it’s wrong, it’s reprehensible, and it should be condemned by all Americans. And it’s just- we are a free and a tolerant society. Any sign of bigotry, such as this person is talking about in Florida, is utterly unacceptable and has to be condemned. SANCHEZ: George Pataki, former governor of the State of New York, thanks for coming by, sir. PATAKI: Thank you, Rick.

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Did Media Negligently Create Koran Burning Controversy?

As the ninth anniversary of 9/11 approaches, and Americans fret about a Pastor they never heard of burning Korans to commemorate the event, people on both sides of the political aisle should be asking a serious question: did the media negligently create this controversy? After all, Terry Jones has a tiny, 50 member, non-denominational church in Gainesville, Florida. Should some unknown Pastor – with a following smaller than what’s normally in line at an In-n-Out restaurant drive-thru! – wanting to burn Korans generate such a media firestorm that an international incident and our national security are threatened? As Mike Thomas of the Orlando Sentinel wrote Wednesday, if you knew the real attention-getting background of Jones, the answer would be a definitive “No”:   This is a guy who looks like Jed Clampett wearing a Hulk Hogan mustache, who uses words like “tragical,” who earlier this year launched a “No homo mayor” campaign against a candidate in Gainesville . Last year Jones sent the kids of the congregation off to school in “Islam is of the devil” T-shirts. Of course they got booted, which got Jones an enticing taste of media attention. With none of this getting Jones the attention he craved, he decided to put a truck in a field with a sign on it saying, “International Burn a Koran Day”: It was like the three strawberries coming into alignment on a million-dollar slot machine. The New York Times and The Associated Press whipped out their notepads. The networks and cable stations broke out the indignant anchors. Indeed they did as evidenced by NewsBusters reports here and here . And, as Thomas pointed out, Jones is just eating it up: This is someone who can barely scrape together enough people to carry a tune in church, and now he has the world breathlessly waiting for his next words. He is a regular Moses on the mountaintop, urging the spineless Christians to take a stand against the Muslim hordes. That all this might get some 20-year-old kid from Ohio blown away in Afghanistan isn’t about to stop Jones now. The good pastor has done found his version of 72 virgins and is living in paradise. Indeed. And who are really to blame? We created the Rev. Terry Jones from dust. And in two weeks, to dust he shall return. Then we’ll move on to the guys who plan to run over the Quran at their monster-truck pull. Whatever it takes to keep your attention. We could help head off such future nonsense if we folded up the circus tent and left Jones alone with his blowtorch and 30 followers. Maybe if Gen. Petraeus told the media that it isn’t Rev. Jones who is endangering troops. That it is our coverage of Rev. Jones. That without us, this book burning would be little more than a grainy video on YouTube . Exactly. America like any country has its share of crazy people with crazy ideas. If such folks were ignored rather than given such a huge platform to spread their word from, we would all be the better for it. Unfortunately, just as media were exactly what Jones needed, he fit their bill perfectly. For weeks now, the press as a result of America’s opposition to the Ground Zero mosque have been trying to convince the citizenry that we are an Islamophobic nation that hates Muslims. Despite the lack of any supporting evidence, this has been the media narrative for approaching a month. With this in mind, an attention-seeking, unknown Pastor advertising a Koran bonfire was exactly what the press needed to prove once and for all just how much antipathy there is for Muslims here. Sadly, they gave this guy his fifteen minutes of fame without any regard for the harm that could be done to Americans living abroad, in particular those fighting wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. More hypocritically, so-called journalists are now blaming Jones for endangering the lives of others. Wouldn’t this not be the case if they ignored him? Isn’t it all the press attention he’s gotten that has actually caused this controversy? If media really are worried that his actions might result in an international incident, given how few people there are in his own area that care what he’s got to say, couldn’t they just similarly pay him no mind? Consider that Gainesville and surrounds has 258,000 residents. This means that two-hundredths of one percent of the population of this city are members of his church. Right now there are probably more media vans in Gainesville than people who care what this guy says. Can’t press members claiming they’re concerned with what his Koran burning will do just pack up those vans, go home, and do us all a favor? If nobody was there to cover the event Saturday, maybe Jones would change his mind and start thinking up his next attention-getting event. On the flipside, this controversy has done us all a favor in exposing the media’s hypocrisy concerning so-called “Islamophobia.” Consider that the press are largely in favor of the Ground Zero mosque despite being in the minority concerning this matter. They base their view on the Islamic center backers having the Constitutional right to build at that location regardless of how anyone feels about it. Yet, these same people are now in an uproar over Jones without a care for his Constitutional right to burn Korans. As such, the media have shown themselves far more concerned for the feelings and the rights of Muslims than Judeo-Christians, and far more worried about offending foreigners than the 67 percent of Americans who are opposed to the Ground Zero mosque. I guess we have Jones to thank for making this hypocrisy apparent to us. 

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ABC Donates 16 Minutes to Obama; George Stephanopoulos Puffs: Does Pastor Make You Feel ‘Helpless?’

Good Morning America’s George Stephanopoulos on Thursday trumpeted his exclusive interview with Barack Obama and rewarded the President with 16 minutes of air time, just as the midterm election season kicks off. Stephanopoulos served up several softballs during the four part interview. Speaking of the pastor in Florida who intends to burn a Koran on 9/11, he sympathized, “I wonder what this must feel like from behind your desk. You’re President of the United States. You have to deal with the fallout. And here’s a pastor who’s got 30 followers in his church. Does it make you feel helpless or angry?” The host informed viewers that the issue is “of deep concern too him as President, as a Christian and as Commander in Chief.” Pointing out criticism of Obama, Stephanopoulos highlighted the President’s children: “You know, and you have had the chance to have dinner at home a lot. You know, when you’re going through these hard times, how much of it bleeds through to them? And how do you protect them from it?” Perhaps because of the extensive running time, 16 minutes and 15 seconds, and because of Stephanopoulos’ past a Democratic campaign operative, the host did offer some tough questions. Stephanopoulos repeatedly challenged the Democrat on letting the Bush tax cuts expire. At one point, he asserted, “It’s not just Republicans, though, Mark Zandi independent economist says that right now the economy, the recovery is just too fragile to take any risk. Don’t have any tax increases at all.” Later, he chided, “More Americans seeing you as liberal. And when you ask questions like, ‘Does he share my values?'” Stephanopoulos told the President that some Americans think he doesn’t “get it.” In 2007, leading up to the presidential elections, GMA devoted 64 minutes to town halls featuring Democrats and zero for Republicans. A partial transcript of the September 9 segment can be found below: GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: And, as you said, Robin, And the FBI worried also very worried about that possible backlash if this Koran warning goes forward on Saturday. When I spoke with the President about it, it is very clear that this has seized his attention at the highest levels of government. It’s of deep concern too him as President, as a Christian and as Commander in Chief. Let me ask you about Pastor Terry Jones. He gave a press conference today. Says he’s going to go through with burning the Korans. Is there anything you can say to him to convince him not to? OBAMA: If he’s listening, I just hope he understands that what he’s proposing to do is completely contrary to our values as Americans. That this country has been built on the notions of religious freedom and religious tolerance. And as a very practical matter, as commander of chief of the Armed Forces of the United States I just want him to understand that this stunt that he is talking about pulling could greatly endanger our young men and women in uniform who are in Iraq, who are in Afghanistan. We’re already seeing protests against Americans just by the mere threat that he’s making. STEPHANOPOULOS: What more could happen? What are you worried about? OBAMA: Well, look, the- this is a recruitment bonanza for Al Qaeda. You know, you could have serious violence in places like Pakistan or Afghanistan. This could increase the recruitment of individuals who’d be willing to blow themselves up in American cities, or European cities. You know and so you know, I just hope that, he says he’s- he’s someone who is motivated by his faith. STEPHANOPOULOS: And he says he’s praying on it. OBAMA: Yeah. I hope he listens to those better angels and, and understands that this is a destructive act that he’s engaging in. STEPHANOPOULOS : I wonder what this must feel like from behind your desk. You’re President of the United States. You have to deal with the fallout. And here’s a pastor who’s got 30 followers in his church. Does it make you feel helpless or angry? OBAMA: It, well it is frustrating. Now, on the other hand, we are a government of laws. And so, we have to abide by those laws. And my understanding is that he can be cited for public burning. But that’s the extent of the laws that we have available to us. You know, part of this country’s history is people doing destructive or offensive or harmful things. And yet, we still have to make sure that we’re following the laws. And that’s part of what I love about this country. 7:07 STEPHANOPOULOS: We also spoke to President Obama about the economy. He has come out swinging the last few months before the midterm election. And now he’s putting a face on his opponent. That’s House Minority Leader John Boehner. Of course, he was here yesterday. The President mentioned Boehner’s name eight times in that speech in Ohio. Of course, that’s Boehner’s home turf. And I began by pointing out that he seems determined to make Boehner the most well-known Republican in the country. OBAMA: Well, you know Congressman Boehner is saying that Republicans have a good chance of winning the House. STEPHANOPOULOS: I talked to him this morning. He seemed pretty confident. OBAMA: And he thinks he may be Speaker. And I think it’s very important that the American People understand what the Republicans are offering, which is essentially more of the same. STEPHANOPOULOS: He said he was open to the ideas on tax cuts that you talked about, today. But he had two of his own. And I want to know if you’re open to those. He said, “Freeze spending at the 2008 levels and extend all of the Bush tax cuts for two years.” I know you’re against any permanent extension, but what about two years? OBAMA: But keep in mind that they said back in 2001 and they said back in 2003 that these tax cuts for the rich would stop at 2010. That’s why we’re in the predicament that we’re in now. And when you ask them why not just go ahead and give 97 percent of Americans a tax break, which is what we’re prepared to do tomorrow, they say no. And the reason is they’re holding- all those middle class folks who need tax relief hostage right now in order to provide tax breaks for the top two percent, wealthiest Americans, who don’t need a tax break, aren’t asking for a tax break. STEPHANOPOULOS: Your own budget director up until a month ago, Peter Orszag wrote in the New York Times yesterday that it was a good compromise. OBAMA: No, what, what Peter Orszag said was he’d like to eliminate all these tax cuts, but that politically the best you may be able to do is to get the Republicans to agree to only extend them for two years. STEPHANOPOULOS: But he said it was a good compromise. He said it made sense. OBAMA: But, that’s something we can’t afford. STEPHANOPOULOS: So, no compromise? No short term extension? OBAMA: We’ve got to make some decisions now that are gonna have huge ramifications over the long term. Now, if Mr. Boehner and the Republicans want to help small businesses right now, which is the rationale that they’ve provided for trying to extend tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans, if they want to help them right now, we’ve got a small jobs bill. Bipartisan bill- written by Democrats and Republicans that provides tax cuts to small businesses. It eliminates capital gains for small businesses. Provides loan assistance to small businesses. And we could vote on that immediately. The reason it’s been held up is because we haven’t seen compromise from the other side. When you look at what the Republicans are offering, it is exactly the same as what landed us in this mess in the first place. STEPHANOPOULOS: It’s not just Republicans, though, Mark Zandi independent economist says that right now the economy, the recovery is just too fragile to take any risk. Don’t have any tax increases at all. OBAMA: But what, what every economist that I’ve talked to has said is that if you’re gonna spend, say $95 billion, even just for two years for these tax cuts, probably the least efficient way of actually giving the economy a boost is to provide that $95 billion to millionaires and billionaires. I mean, if Warren Buffet gets a tax break, that’s not gonna change his spending patterns. If those families that I were talking to out in, out here in Cleveland or across the country get a tax break, that may mean a new computer for their kid. It may mean that they’re able to make their mortgage payments. It may mean that they can buy a new coat for winter. And that’s where our money should be going. STEPHANOPOULOS: How deep is your commitment to this fight? Are you saying that if Congress passes a short term extension of all the tax cuts, you’re gonna veto it? OBAMA: You can’t have Republicans running on fiscal discipline that we’re gonna reduce our deficit, that the debt’s out of control, and then borrow tens, hundreds of billions of dollars to give tax cuts to people who don’t need them. STEPHANOPOULOS: Does that mean you will veto an extension of tax cuts for the wealthy? OBAMA: What I am saying is that if we are going to add to our deficit by $35 billion, $95 billion, $100 billion, $700 billion, if that’s the Republican agenda, then I’ve got a whole bunch of better ways to spend that money. STEPHANOPOULOS: But you’re not saying you’re gonna veto it? OBAMA: I, there are a whole bunch better ways to spend the money. STEPHANOPOULOS: How come you don’t want to say veto? OBAMA: There are a whole bunch better ways to spend the money. … 8:01 STEPHANOPOULOS: But, first, we’re going to have more of my interview with President Obama. 60 Days to the election right now. Less than 60 days. And Democrats are pulling out all of the stops. And for President Obama, that means to pull out a little campaign trail deja vu and calling on his secret weapon. Now, you’re going to have the First Lady’s help out on the campaign trail, we’re reading. OBAMA: Well, you know, she is far more popular than me. And rightly so. She spent most of this week making sure that the girls start off well in school. They had their first day of school on Tuesday. And I guarantee you, we get more requests for her than just about anybody else. STEPHANOPOULOS: You know, you bring up- you bring up the girls. You know, and you have had the chance to have dinner at home a lot. You know, when you’re going through these hard times, how much of it bleeds through to them? And how do you protect them from it? OBAMA: You know I think they are still young enough where they don’t watch the nightly news. I apologize for that, George. But- STEPHANOPOULOS: They might get some on the Internet, right? OBAMA: But, you know, I , when we’re sitting around the dinner table, we’re talking about them, and their lives … STEPHANOPOULOS: They’re not worried? They don’t, they don’t hear things? OBAMA: No, I think, well, first of all, people are very gracious to them. It’s not like somebody’s going up and saying, you know, I think your dad is a bum. That has not yet happened to them. I think people understand that kids are off limits on these issues. I do think that they know that we’re going through a tough time. They know that we’re involved in two wars. They know that we had a big oil spill in the Gulf. And so, we talk about those issues. And what I try to explain to them is that the issues that we’re dealing with are really tough. Daddy’s making the best decisions that he can to help the most people in this country. Some of ’em are going to work. Some of ’em aren’t going to work exactly the way we want. But, what I try to describe to them and instill in them are the same values that I inherited from my mom and from my grandparents, and that Michelle inherited from hers. And that is what I talked about today. Hard work, responsibility, looking out for other people. STEPHANOPOULOS: And, remember at that last press conference, the President did say that Malia came up to him and said, “We need to plug the hole, daddy?” ROBERTS: Oh, I remember that, right. Yeah. But, it’s nice to know that people are being gracious to the kids, as you would imagine. STEPHANOPOULOS: But, it is good to hear. It is good to hear that.

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ABC Donates 16 Minutes to Obama; George Stephanopoulos Puffs: Does Pastor Make You Feel ‘Helpless?’